A Firesign Chat


||||||||| Catherwood re-enters the Waiting Room and explains "This is the main discussion room which is logged each night."
||||||||| Catherwood announces, "The time is 4:33 AM - I now declare Thursday's chat log for March 22, 2007 officially open!"... and then, he retires back to the vestibule...
||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and JustAnotherGov'tTweeny plummets into the garden at 6:13 PM.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Who's movie _is_ this, anyway?
||||||||| Catherwood says "6:13 PM, time for SOMEONE to leave!", grabs JustAnotherGov'tTweeny by the collar and gives 'em the old bum's rush out the door
||||||||| Catherwood escorts ah,clem into the room, accepts an I.O.U. as a gratuity, mutters something about 8:00 PM, then departs.
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 8 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
||||||||| New CNI streaming notice: '"a few minutes with FireSign Theatre" at about 9 eastern, TV or not TV?'
||||||||| ah,clem rushes off, saying "8:01 PM? Mark Time is almost on! Where's a radio?"
||||||||| Catherwood escorts ah,clem in through the front door at 8:57 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
||||||||| "9:00 PM? 9:00 PM!!" says Catherwood, "llanwydd should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as llanwydd enters and sits at the bar.
llanwydd: let me in!
llanwydd: sanctuary! sanctuary!
||||||||| Catherwood strides in with a trumpet, plays a fanfare, and proclaims "Nine PM on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - I now declare alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre's chat officially open!"
ah,clem: hi ll
llanwydd: just having some tea
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 9:07 PM and Dexter Fong waltzes out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
Dexter Fong: llan: Roll a bag for me
Dexter Fong: Hiya Clem
llanwydd: Hey Dex!
||||||||| Catherwood ushers Merlyn in through the front door at 9:09 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
ah,clem :)
Merlyn: hey ho
Dexter Fong: Ho Hey Merlyn
llanwydd: Hey Merl!
llanwydd: been busy these days, merl?
Merlyn: yeah, fixing bugs on the website, going to fly to moutain view CA on sunday to interview with google, etc
Dexter Fong: Good luck with that Merlyn
llanwydd: sounds pretty cool
Merlyn: tx, not sure if I'd move though
llanwydd: I lived in tx for 6 or 7 weeks
Dexter Fong: Merlyn: Just remember, Nothing happens until Something moves
llanwydd: when I was at basic training at lackland afb
Dexter Fong: Lackland....in Texas........nahhh
llanwydd: I wouldn't go back to lackland, but san antonio was nice
Merlyn: well, google was voted the best place to work in the world at some point
||||||||| Catherwood walks up and snorts derisively "Presenting 'cease', just granted probation at 9:16 PM", then leaves hurriedly.
Dexter Fong: Hiyah Cat
llanwydd: Hey Cat!
cease: what's up?
Merlyn: hi cat
Dexter Fong: Cat: Doen't eat the wet food, it's tainted
Merlyn: I don't know, but I know what updoc is
cease: sounds like proc/berg
cease: i'll avoid it, dex
Dexter Fong: Like the plague Cat
Dexter Fong: and the fiddlers
llanwydd: artaud will cure you like the plague
Merlyn: mr. liverface cat food
llanwydd: that's a pun
Merlyn: back in a few minutes
Dexter Fong: LLAN: thanks for the Ed's up
llanwydd: I saw them do mr. liverface at town hall in NYC
cease: i havent visited the theatre of cruelty in years
cease: still havent recovered from the last time i went there
Dexter Fong: Cat: That's because you don't have a day job
cease: interesting re-do of that in their london gig
cease: what, me? work?
llanwydd: I don't know what artaud meant but I think "theatre of cruelty" is pretentious
cease: my bob denver invitation
llanwydd: nobody knows what artaud meant
Dexter Fong: llan: That's a very cruel thing to say
cease: impression. needs more grass
llanwydd: LL Dex
llanwydd: I mean LOL
Dexter Fong: CI
cease: the firesign did an artaud play on one of their radio shows, as i recall
Dexter Fong: Chuckle inwardly
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood snorts derisively: "9:22 PM and late as usual, it's Dave & Katie, just back from Funfun Town."
Dexter Fong: Cat: I like your John Denver invitation better
cease: hey dave. bow wow, katie
Dexter Fong: Hey Dave...and Woof Woof Katie
cease: and speaking of denver....
Dave & Katie: we were in fun fun town actually, just walked down to a middle eastern restaurant and it was goood, hi everybody! I'm back from the shadows!
Dexter Fong: Rocky Balboa High?
Dexter Fong: Dave: hate to tell you but you were in the spotlight
llanwydd: cat did you say firesign parodied artaud?
Dexter Fong: Caught in the spot light as it were
cease: as irecall, llan
cease: it was in 76 or something. my memory isnt that good
Dave & Katie: ah I've missed this place, things certainly have changed for me, I'm going to move to boulder next year I think, new place to go to school, new town to learn, new people, a change, other than that just finished the winter quarter here and wrote two huge research papers for cognitive neuroscience and an emotion class, so been really busy, how's everyone?
Dave & Katie: in the spotlight dex? how so?
cease: we can ask an actual firesign member the next time one shows up here
Dexter Fong: Dave: Kinda like you..just took out two huge bundles of papers
Dave & Katie: I spoke to Ken the other day, he says hello to everyone and I told him I would pass that along,
Dexter Fong: Dave: Thanks for the Kend^ greet///he never comes up into the hills, that guy
Dave & Katie: hey I had fun writing those research papers, it was a lot of work but I learned a lot, not just about the topics but about how I organize things in my mind and how to prepare for things
llanwydd: that sounds cool, cat. I'll bet it's like that "follow the snake" thing. It probably goes along with casteneda as well
Dave & Katie: no he's always down there in billville
llanwydd: I'm being facetious of course
cease: good to hear, dave
Dexter Fong: llan: You're a fascista?
llanwydd: well, not exactly, dex
Dave & Katie: I'm getting a new computer built, it's gonna be fast, but I've been thinking of Klok a lot through the process, RIP Mr. computer encyclopedia
Dexter Fong: YOu mean you've burned your beret?
cease: indeed, dave
Dexter Fong: Dave: We all think about Klok
Dexter Fong: He's missed every week
Dave & Katie: ..
llanwydd: as I remember, klok was one of the wittiest of us
Dexter Fong: D&K mark time
||||||||| It's 9:30 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Merlyn - dead from intense demonic possession
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood leads JustAnotherGov'tTweeny in through the front door at 9:30 PM, picks up his cues (only slightly scorched), and heads for the billiard room.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Evenin' folks...
cease: you have a good memory, llan
llanwydd: hey tween!
Dexter Fong: Ah porr Merlyn..I warned him about magic
Dave & Katie: it's the tweenster! how's it hanging buddy?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Sell those demons, Merlyn!
Dexter Fong: Hi tweeny
Dave & Katie: ah I've missed this place, although it's quiet
cease: tween
Dexter Fong: ...and none of these demons has been googled
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Hey Dex, LL, Dave and the Wonder Dog :-)
Dave & Katie: anyone seen doc or bunnyboy? I have tech audio questions for them and emailed doc but never got a response
Dexter Fong: Tween: YOu missed Cat and Merlyn and clem
Dexter Fong: Dave: Doc has been ultra busy dealing with Lili
Dexter Fong: s health problems
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Well, lo dere to everybody...
Dave & Katie: Katie is a wonder dog, she's passed out at the moment, we did a lot of work today, leanred where a new building was and went for dinner and played, so she needs her beauty sleep
ah,clem: I think I am still here
cease: i spoke to doc on sunday
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: TV or Not TV. Nice choice, clem :-)
Dexter Fong: Cat: How goes it with Lili
Dave & Katie: ah ok, I figured he was busy
llanwydd: how are they?
cease: good news on the oxygen front
Dexter Fong: Less needed? That's good
Dave & Katie: I have yet to hear tv or not tv in its entirity
cease: he also said she'd been getting excellent treatment from the VA
cease: walter reed
Dexter Fong: Dave: You
Dave & Katie: hi there clem
cease: good thing she doesnt have to go to walter reed
Dexter Fong: Dave: You're late arrival ensures the continuation of that personal record =))
ah,clem: hi Dave!
cease: most of the sentence i typed dissapeared
Dave & Katie: dex I?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Worth picking up at Bubba's "going out of body sale", Dave
Dave & Katie: well can't help when I show up, can ya? hehehe
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Along with the servants, cease?
Dave & Katie: i know, is laugh.com still around?
cease: i ordered a bunch of crowin cds as well as Martian Space Party which i've never seen
Dexter Fong: My sentences were in those barrels
Dave & Katie: tied at the wrists and ankles
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Yep. THat's Carlin's site. Going to be around for a while.
||||||||| 9:36 PM: i johanna902862938love am hiwh jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past hour!"
llanwydd: I haven't seen the firesign movies either
Dave & Katie: I think Ken says that's one of his fave records, but don't quote me on that
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: johanna, what a long name you have...
Dexter Fong: Ah Numerical Joanna finally appears
cease: hi johanna. how are the visions?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Got to pick up EYKIW on video one of these days
cease: most of the flicks arent worth seeing
Dave & Katie: then what's bub's site?
Dexter Fong: J-Men Forever is good though
||||||||| i johanna902862938love am hiwh, spotting Bradshaw, runs into The Kennels.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Well, if you're a _true_ Firehead, cease...
||||||||| i johanna902862938love am hiwh is thrown out the window just as the clock strikes 9:37 PM.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: I still ove the old Jack Poet Volkswagen commercials
Dave & Katie: visions of johanna, ah I have dylan's complete works, I like it, some of it
||||||||| i johanna902862938love am hiwh enters at 9:38 PM as Catherwood takes their hat and goat and runs off to the Hat Pack Annex.
Dexter Fong: I believe Arthur Brown was a _True_ Firehead
Dave & Katie: yes johanna's name takes oo long to read
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: www.lodestone-media.com, Dave
llanwydd: you got dylan complete? you lucky dog!
Dave & Katie: the crazy world of arthur brown, man haven't heard that in a long long time
cease: yes the jack poet stuff is good
||||||||| i johanna902862938love am hiwh runs out the back door as Mayor P'nisnose blasts through the front door holding a shotgun and shouting "Where's i johanna902862938love am hiwh?! It's 9:38 PM and my ballot boxes haven't been stuffed yet!"
Dexter Fong: afk for refill (and yes, the car is *already poarked*
||||||||| Catherwood stomps in at 9:39 PM, dragging Merlyn by one leg and asks "Can anyone vouch for this web surfer?"
Dave & Katie: yes llan, but I won't tell you where, grin
Dexter Fong: porked?
Merlyn: hey again
llanwydd: I started collecting dylan about 1982
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 9:39 PM and i johanna902862938love am hiwh steps out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
Dave & Katie: hey merl
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Well, it _tastes_ like pork
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: wb Merl
cease: dylan hasnt made a good album since 75
Dave & Katie: my screen reader is having a cardiac arrest trying to spit out johanna's name
cease: thanks for the grape, johanna.
||||||||| At 9:40 PM, i johanna902862938love am hiwh vanishes mysteriously -- just as Nino the Mind Boggler predicted!
||||||||| Catherwood accompanies i johanna902862938love am hiwh into the room, accepts a jar of pennies as a gratuity, mutters something about 9:40 PM, then departs.
llanwydd: your saying "Desire", cat?
cease: it does taste like pork
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: I like other people doing his songs. Hendrix's version of "Watchtower" couldn't have been done better IMHO
Dave & Katie: I am temtped to agree cat, I listen to blood on the tracks most of all
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: lol cease
llanwydd: that might be his last great album.
cease: black diamond bay, the last thing he wrote i'd still listen to
cease: yes that's a great one, dave
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Blood On The Tracks is very good
||||||||| "9:41 PM? I'm late!" exclaims i johanna902862938love am hiwh, who then runs out through the french doors and down through the garden.
cease: indeed tween
Dave & Katie: desire was 76, BOTT was 75
Merlyn: johanna was from spain, according to nino
Dave & Katie: desire was great too though, but the rest of 'em after that I have yet to really listen to, but you gotta admit at least he's still doing his own thing
cease: maybe she'll bring us some tapas and sangria
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: A Spanish lass to augment our little party?
Merlyn: ok, who here knows what "Blood on the Badge" was?
Dexter Fong believes he once saw i joanna etc.....in Blade Runner
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: I know the Cream's version of Badge, but not bloddy...
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: lol Dex
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: bloody
llanwydd: dex has visions of johanna
Dexter Fong: Merlyn: And we all know about Nino's gift Geographical
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Too many replicants running around these days lol
||||||||| With a theatrical clearing of his throat, Catherwood snorts derisively: "9:43 PM and late as usual, it's i johanna902862938love am hiwh, just back from Billville."
Merlyn: "Blood on the Badge" was Det. Ron Harris' book about police life in Barney Miller
Dexter Fong wonders if i joanna is haveing technical troubles
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Hola, Johanna
Merlyn: buenos dias johanna
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: A little too obscure, Merl ;-)
ah,clem: perhaps you should ask in en espanol
Dexter Fong: and bonna note
cease: que pasa? have some sangria
ah,clem :)
llanwydd: ain't it just like the night to play tricks when you're trying to be so quiet
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: que pasta?
Dave & Katie: johanna hay un problema con su conneccion, no?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Saw your recent blog, cease. You do find some extrordinary restaurants...
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Hispanic Dave to the rescue...
cease: my next blog entry will be reviewing ficks ive seen recently
Dave & Katie: I speak spanish too, one of my many talents, you guys don't get to witness the other ones though, they include drunken dancing, watching paint dry, and star gazing
cease: flicks
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Lived in TX 12 years and I still don't begin to know Spanish
Dexter Fong: Tween: Cuidado!!! Armadillos
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: lol Dave
Dave & Katie: lol! dex
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: The Armadillo World Headquarters, in fact :-)
Dexter Fong: Gracia, David
Dave & Katie: I need a muscle relaxant, but it will relax more muscles than I want it to
Merlyn: I don't speak spanish, but Atty general gonzales got some 'splainin' to do
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Slick, Dave
llanwydd: lot of mexicans in your part of tx, tween?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: You've been overdoing it, Dave?
Dexter Fong: Dave: Tale the muscle relaxant and Viagra at the same time
Dexter Fong: Take
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: There are parts of Austin where you'd be hard-pressed to hear English
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: lol Dex
Dexter Fong: kinda hello right ba ck at yah Clem
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Cal & TX are majority Hispanic
||||||||| It's 9:50 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| i johanna902862938love am hiwh - dead from measles
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Dave & Katie: oh is that what ya do? that way part of you relaxes but the part you want to stay unrelaxed still works? hmmmm, grin
Dexter Fong: Tween: add NYC to that list
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Focused medication
Dexter Fong: i joanna died a measley death
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: I don't doubt it, Dex
Dexter Fong: 'chu bet Tween
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Of course, NYC has had a large Puerto Rican population for a long time
Dexter Fong: Tween: Domincans may now outnumber Puerto Ricans
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Huh...
llanwydd: I knew that tween. I actually grew up in new jersey
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Didn't know that...
Merlyn: I thought puerto ricans were tiny
llanwydd: but I don't live there now
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Probably rubbed elbows with Bambi and didn't know it
Dexter Fong: not to mention the Mexicans, Guatamalans, Incas, Mayans, and a few descendents of Cortez
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Those are pocorians, Merl
Dexter Fong: Bambi is Espanic?
Dave & Katie: my back is really hurting tonight, I think it was cause of the chairs at the place I went to eat
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Had a time-share in Cancun for a while. The Mayans are serious builders with stone
Dexter Fong: Pocorians! I loved that band
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Bam's from NJ
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: HUGE Poco fan.
Dexter Fong: The Mayans, Stoned builders of the Past
Dave & Katie: just put on some gov't mule, going to see them in april, they are good
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: A couple of bands came through my concert hall with George Grantham on drums.
llanwydd: you know jersey all that well, dex?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Yeah, Gov't Mule is a very good jam band
Dexter Fong: Reasonably so
Dave & Katie: yeah I saw some ruins in taloom, wasn't that impressed, but you have to see those and them see Pompae, I did the reverse, seen Pompae twice and climed Vesuvius too
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Katie described the to you?
cease: a state named after a cow
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Neat dog ;-)
Dexter Fong: Molto bene, Dave
Dave & Katie: my musical directions are all over the place these days, so when people ask me what kind of music I like I just tell them that I listen to whatever feels good in my soul
cease: must have been frmo the War with the Cows
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Visited the Mayan ruins. Was actually very impressed.
Dexter Fong: Dave: Do YOu Like Soul Music/
Dave & Katie: nah I didn't have Katie at the time, that was before I got her, went to NY just after Europe, that was an amazing summer
cease: something i'd like to do, tween
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Their mathematics were very good indeed. Had an astronomical observatory.
Dave & Katie: I do like soul music, and am an old soul, and am soulful
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Haven't been to Cancun in 20 years, but I'd sure like to go again...
Dave & Katie: well I am not saying that those ruins aren't bad, but the ones I saw I wasn't impressed with, that's all
Dexter Fong: Dave: Soul! American
Dave & Katie: someone is barbecuing outside, smells good and sickening since I ate so much awhile ago
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Revisited the Blues Brothers this afternoon. Funny movie, and great music.
llanwydd: cancun isn't hard to get to from tx
Dexter Fong: 'less you live in west Texas
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Nope. An hour or so by plane.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: You must remember the scale of distance in TX & MX, though...
Dexter Fong: Oh..I was thinking you were traveling by Gov'mint Mule
cease: asphalt arabic?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: It takes me two days to drive from IN to TX, and most of the 2nd day is just getting to Central TX ;-)
llanwydd: well that's true
Dexter Fong: Never mind Jenny, looks like we ain't goin' to mexico
Dexter Fong: Cat: And the prophet Mohmmad carved his name in the highway
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 10 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Dave & Katie: haha
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Actually, it looks like I'll be moving back to Indiana. Near Bloomington. My Mom's in the hospital with kidney failure from ecoli at some Chinese buffet...
Dave & Katie: it's been a long day
Merlyn: now I know what time it is a thousand miles away
Dave & Katie: uh oh that's not good tween
cease: you can help bubba clean out lodestone, tween
Dexter Fong: Tween, Sorry to hear that
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Not at age 90. She'll pull through, but she may need dialysis
ah,clem: sorry to hear that Tweeny
Dave & Katie: hey merl I still want to send you a pic, what's the address I can send it to?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Yeah, it sucks. Stuff happens...
Merlyn: 1906 james avenue, St Paul, MN 55105 dave
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: She's been so active and healthy. A person of her age in lesser health wouldn't have survived.
Dave & Katie: I meant the email address merl
Dave & Katie: sorr, some day we won't have postal address, and a ton of people will be out of work, but that's the beayty of capitalism
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: lol Dave
Merlyn: ok dave
Merlyn: westley@visi.com
Dexter Fong: Well Dave...I continue to listen to Keith Jarrett Trio - Standards. And been listening to Brad Medau (pianist) lately..he's very new/young and very good but also very different to the "straight ahead Jazz I tend to favor
Dexter Fong: Idiot me, meant for Dave, solamente
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Keith Jarrett is promoting those $15k laser turntables.
Dexter Fong: Brad Meldau it should be
Dave & Katie: there ya go merl sent off
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: http://www.elpj.com/
Dexter Fong: Tween: Laser tt for vynal?
||||||||| Catherwood stumbles in at 10:07 PM, dragging Bubba's Brain by one leg and asks "Can anyone vouch for this Firehead?"
Bubba's Brain: hey all
cease: sounds like flick i saw recently, dave. called Idiocracy
Dexter Fong: Hi Bubba
Dave & Katie: yeah if I had the money I would buy one of those, but jesus christ, you can buy a car for that much
llanwydd: Hey Bub!
cease: hey bub. all sold out yet?
Bubba's Brain: Not of everything...
Merlyn: hey bb
Bubba's Brain: Hey Bri.
Bubba's Brain: Still much in stock.
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Vinyl. But only black vinyl. Won't work on clear or colored discs
Dexter Fong: Some reviewer consider the Laser TT to be a great idea which has not yet been actualized
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: It's a darned shame, Bubba.
llanwydd: so sell me something, bub. what's on the market?
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: If Keith Jarret likes it, I say it must be pretty faithful.
Dave & Katie: hey bub I want to buy some stuff still, but need to wait a week or so until the check comes in
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: The National Archives of CN has bought one.
cease: i saw jarrett at a club in la in the mid 70s
Dave & Katie: yes well Keith Jaret can buy whatever he wants really
Bubba's Brain: The answer to your question is http://lodestonecatalog.com/cgi-bin/sale.cgi -- that's what's on the market
Merlyn: gotta spray paint your colored records
cease: was sitting so close, sweat came flying off him and landed in my drink
Bubba's Brain: D&K -- what are you looking for?
Dexter Fong: Tween: Surpirisingly, most musicians have really crappy audio rigs and moreover, sdon't listen the same way most of us do
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: That would be me Dex lol
Dave & Katie: sexy Cat, makes me want to see him, if he'd just shut up and stop singing with his piano all the time I'd listen to him more, I know that's a common thing for pianists to do, but good lord he takes it to the extreme
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Did you start wanting to play the piano the next day, cease?
llanwydd: Spray-paint them black, Merl?
Bubba's Brain: Paint it black?
Merlyn: I see a red disc and I want to paint it black
llanwydd: I see a red door and...
Dexter Fong: Dave: If you don't like singing pianists, you must hear Glenn Gould
cease: i had a green dylan bootleg once
Dave & Katie: I have a good audio setup, nothing abslutely stunning, but I can shake the walls when I want to, and I have a good ear, I met the producer of Ray at a blind convention a few years ago and he said that when he met Ray Charles, he had a crappy-sounding TV in his office, which I found funny
llanwydd: I've never had a dylan bootleg
llanwydd: but I've had some pretty cheesy live dylan
Bubba's Brain: Bootlegs of Spanish Leather?
cease: it was quite good. had John Birch Blues on it
llanwydd: especially "Budokan". probably the worst dylan performance on record
cease: the school i taught at in tokyo was near the budokan
cease: actualy saw jarret there. good show. no sweat
Dexter Fong: Budha, Buhda, he's our man, if nobody can do it, Budha can
Dave & Katie: beautican is a pretty horrible concert, was playing it the other day
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Thewre have been some really good live recordings at Budokan
cease: actually "budo" means martial arts
Bubba's Brain: Budha Bum, Budha Bing.
cease: built for olypics, i think
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Splash cymbal
Dave & Katie: oh yeah there's some great dojos there, apparently there is the 10 story one in Tokyo
cease: its a homonym for the japanese words for grape, also budo
Dave & Katie: one of my good friends is a judo paraolympian
Dexter Fong: Uhh! Ten story Dojo tower over Gorganzola
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: The way of the grape
Bubba's Brain: Budo Budo -- martial art with grapes -- "grape fu"
llanwydd: that's funny
llanwydd: ruby red grape fu
Bubba's Brain: Budo can you spare a dime?
cease: there's a comedy routine about learning self defence against fruit.
cease: ? i forget who did that
llanwydd: it was python, cat
Dave & Katie: monty python did it, I have it
cease: oh of course
||||||||| Dave & Katie says "Catherwood, call me a cab." After the obvious joke, Dave & Katie exits at 10:19 PM.
||||||||| Catherwood leads Dave & Katie inside, makes a note of the time (10:20 PM), then fades off into the distance going on about the waiting room or the sitting room or something.
Dave & Katie: oops, wrong button
Bubba's Brain: Cosby had a routine about breaking a brick. Ended with the guy with a ruined hand karate chopping jello.
Merlyn: the cab call button
Dave & Katie: yep, guess so
Bubba's Brain: The Cab Calloway button.
||||||||| H Stones waltzes in at 10:21 PM carrying an obsidian door knocker.
Dave & Katie: hmmmm, just had a funny image of a blind peson caling a txi on the street, hehehe
llanwydd: LOL Bub
H Stones: Salutations
cease: stones
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Hail and well met, sir...
llanwydd: Hey Stones!
Dave & Katie: hey stone man
Bubba's Brain: Hey Hem.
llanwydd: How you feeling these days, hstones?
H Stones: exausted after extended Geek horizon
Dexter Fong: Stones, you must be phlemish, sit down and cut this diamond
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Yeah, is the collarbone mended?
||||||||| A time machine materializes at 10:23 PM and Bambi sashays out, carrying a grape from ancient Greece.
H Stones: its all Dutch to me
Bambi: howdy folks :-)
Dexter Fong: Bambi, I'd recognize that sashay anywhere
Bubba's Brain: Bam Bam!
cease: bambi
Dave & Katie: hmmmm, I'm trying to picture bambi sashaying
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Hey deer person...
llanwydd: Hey Bambi!
H Stones: Hi Bambi
Dave & Katie: the deer and the person, grin
Merlyn: hi bam
Bambi: LOL Great to see you Bubba, Cat, Dave & Katie!, Dex, Stones, Tween, llanwydd, Merlyn and of course, Clem :-)
Bambi: Catherwood please pour me a toasted almond
||||||||| Catherwood brings Bambi a toasted almond.
Dexter Fong: Clem...of course
Dave & Katie: notice that katie got an ! after her name? hehehe yay, wag waggggg
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: How's Williamsburg treatin' ya, Bambi?
Bubba's Brain: What? None of the rest of us got a !
Dexter Fong hollers WALKIES!! just to see what happens
Bambi smiles and gives Katie a big rustle around the head and hears
Dave & Katie: "katie looks up at Dex's utterance, then goes back to sleep
Dexter Fong heard that rustling and counted his cattle
Bubba's Brain: We demand equal punctuation!
Bubba's Brain: =
Dexter Fong: ;whispers, "Time to go to work, Katie"
Bambi: Williamsburg doing nicely ... was still 72 degrees when I left at 9PM :-)
Bambi: LOL Bubba!
Dexter Fong: Bambi: Are you near DOG Street
Dave & Katie: katie looks at Dex, yawns, and goes back to sleep, Dave rubs Katie's head, nah my girl has had a good day
Dexter Fong: Duke Of Gloster I mean
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Spring has Sprung
H Stones: trust Fong to try to throw a Spaniel in the works
Bambi: Not too far from DOG street (Duke of Gloucester) ... wouldn't want to walk it but only a few minutes drive
llanwydd: I've visited williamsburg around this time of year
Bambi: or bike ride
Dexter Fong: Stones: By Jove, that's a LOL, if I ever heard one
cease: ok folks. i'm off to sleep
cease: see y'all next week
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Went there when I was kid. Love the maze
llanwydd: nite cat!
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Bye cease...
Dexter Fong: Cat: Sleep with one eye open
||||||||| cease dashes out the back door as Mayor P'nisnose blasts through the front door holding a shotgun and shouting "Where's cease?! It's 10:30 PM and my ballot boxes haven't been stuffed yet!"
ah,clem: g/n Cat
ah,clem: oops
Dave & Katie: I love williamsburg, been there twice
||||||||| "10:31 PM? 10:31 PM!!" says Catherwood, "H Sanchez should be here by now...oh, THERE you are!" as H Sanchez enters and sits in the comfy chair.
Bambi: give it about another 3-4 weeks before visiting and it will be in it's full spring glory I bet (Williamsburg) ... full of all the beautiful flowering trees
H Sanchez: hello
Dexter Fong: My Mom and Pop lived there for a number of years in their retirement phase
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: It'd be fun to try the maze with Katie
Bambi: see ya Cat
llanwydd: hello H
H Stones: passes Honey an extra cushion
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Ms. Sanchez....
Dexter Fong: Ollas! Big jugs! Honey
Dave & Katie: anyone here good with cool edit pro? hence why I asked for doc earlier
Bambi: hi Honey
H Sanchez: my my hola fong
H Sanchez: hi bambi
ah,clem: amazing so many of you have ties to billsburg
H Sanchez: thanks stones i needed that extra cushion
Dave & Katie: hehehe I'm sure Katie would do fine in the maze, smile
H Stones: i have used Cool Edit Pro a few times
Dexter Fong: Dasve: I had a coolie editor once but he never got past pluperfect ense down
Bambi: haven't used it in quite a while but have definitely used it too
ah,clem: on the next visit, look us up at dot com cafe
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: She probably would, Dave ;-)
Bubba's Brain: Been a while since I used it.
H Sanchez: i have used it minimally in a production studio with a friend
H Stones: Cool Edit Pro was bought out by Adobe and is now called Adobe Audition i think
Bambi: yes, and our new website domain is: http://www.DotCom-Cafe.com ... we thought it should have a .com address lol
Dave & Katie: I can't get it to play what I record out of the speakers I bought, since they run through a usb port, not the sound card, I can put a file in and it plays them, but can't record and then hear what I've played back, say if I record from the waveinupt or something, but neither sound forge or goldwave will play either, I dont' know what to do
Bubba's Brain: dot com dot com dot com
Dave & Katie: yes I can't use adobe audition, downloaded it and it's too graphical for my reader
H Stones: sounds like you need to check your sound card mixer settings Dave
Dave & Katie: which is too bad I wanted it to work, it doesn't
Bambi: yes, that's true Stones. Adam in #cni (irc.equnet.org) uses it quite abit (the new Adobe version and he really likes it)
Dave & Katie: I don't know where to find my latest drivers though, because the sb people want the number on the back of the card or something and I cant' read it
Dave & Katie: but it's frustrating
Bubba's Brain: Sounds like system configuration issues, more than the program itself.
H Stones: i agree Bubba
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: One word Dave.... Macintosh
H Stones: i agree with the tosh part
Dave & Katie: nope tween, speech software isn't good with macs
Bambi: Stones is right, sounds more like a sound card setting issue than a Cool Edit Pro problem
Dexter Fong: Well, and how about Clan McGregor
Bambi: Mac OS X is great Tween
Dave & Katie: can anyone possibly help me find the correct drivers? cause creative's site is really inaccessable
H Stones: theres just the problemof the number of the card
H Stones: if we could determine that Dave we would be in with a chance
Dave & Katie: well maybe I was reading it wrong and they don't need that
Dexter Fong: stones: Are you referring to the Number on those confounde ID Cards
H Stones: whats the name of the card Dave ?
Dave & Katie: it's the sound blaster audigy d800
H Stones: a soundblaster i presume
Bambi: always had to have the audio settings open and set to record on the item specifically chosen to record from and then leave the sound mixer open while doing that
Bubba's Brain: BRB
Bambi: lol Stones
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: I see that Dragon NaturallySpeaking is XP/2000 only Dave. Oh well...
Bambi: Two words for ya: SoundBlaster Live!
Bambi: never had a problem recording with a SoundBlaster Live!
Dave & Katie: I just checked the driver date, it's 2-20-2004, no wonder
Dexter Fong: It's spring Clem
H Stones: i have had to abandon my Soundblaster, its not fast enough to run Midi without loads of latency
Merlyn: dave, the creative site needs to know what sub-version of audigy
Dave & Katie: I had a sound blaster live but got this card...I don't know why really
H Stones: Audigy D800 Drivers, download
Merlyn: nothing identified as d800, it's things like "audigy 2 ZS platinum" etc
JustAnotherGov'tTweeny: Pretty funny, clem :-)
Bambi: good idea Stones. If it's gonna do it might need actual Creative drivers rather than Windows generic drivers that are usually installed by default
Merlyn: any info dave?
ah,clem: good night everyone!
llanwydd: nite, clem
H Sanchez: stones cant get back into the room the screen just went blank
Dave & Katie: no merl, still loking
H Sanchez: it did for me but i refreshed it a couple of times and its back now
H Sanchez: he is trying again but so far, no luck
Bambi: night Clem Thanks! :-)
Merlyn: dave, can you operate on their download page at http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/
H Stones: Hello I am back
H Sanchez: wb hemlock
Merlyn: hi stones
H Stones: ty
H Sanchez: night clem
Dave & Katie: when I tried the auto update feature, it said the active x control failed to load, I didn't know what to do after that
||||||||| It's 10:50 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Dexter Fong - dead from the fiddlers
||||||||| JustAnotherGov'tTweeny - dead from the fiddlers
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
H Stones: Come back Tween and Fong
Dave & Katie: I see nothing that will list the model name on my computer, at least that I know of how to find
H Stones: actually Dave, if your using XP it should have some basic drivers that will power a Soundblaster
llanwydd: well, I'm going to retire for the next 140-160 hours and then I'll return. please negotiate my retirement pension with phil when he stops by.
H Stones: but there might be some reduced functionality
H Sanchez: goodnight llan have a good week
Bambi: apparently the D800 is the SB Audigy 2 Audio
H Stones: everyone is leaving, did i say something ?
Merlyn: ok llan
Dave & Katie: that's it
Dave & Katie: they've upgraded to 4 but I didn't see the point in buying a new one
Merlyn: There isn't one for "Audigy 2 audio", but there is for just "audigy 2"
Dave & Katie: and the site is still pretty inaccessable,
H Stones: that sound right Merlyn
Dave & Katie: that might work merl
Bambi: http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?Product_ID=4915&Product_Name=Audigy+2+ZS&OSName=Windows+XP&OS=10&DriverType=0&details=1
Dave & Katie: life savers! ...maybe
Merlyn: what windows version dave?
||||||||| At 10:54 PM, ah,clem hurries out the door saying "Hey, mister ice-cream man, I've got a nickel, wait for meeeee..."
Merlyn: that looks like the audigy 2 ZS bambi
Bambi: hmmm, Google said it was the other one drat
Bambi: http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/SOUND-CARD/CREATIVE/Creative-Sound-Blaster-Audigy-2-105.shtml
Bambi: skip the last one I posted
Dave & Katie: good thing I caught that I was just about to download it, and px pro
Bambi: apparently an empty page
Merlyn: dave, you can try driectly downloading http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/AVP/9497/0x193D93A7/SBAX_WBUP2_LB_2_09_0016.exe
Dave & Katie: ah, sorry, xp pro
Bambi: there ya go. Thanks Merlyn
Merlyn: xp pro would be http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/AVP/9497/0x193D93A7/SBAX_WBUP2_LB_2_09_0016.exe
Dave & Katie: thanks a lot guys, that really helps, I hope it works
Merlyn: looks like the same link, so it's probably the same driver
H Stones: good luck
H Sanchez hopes it does work for Dave
Bambi: apparently the SB Audigy 2 and Audigy 2 ZS use the same drivers according to one link
H Stones: good luck Dave
Dave & Katie: it's the same file it seems
Bambi: but you do NEED the USB version
Dave & Katie: hahahah thanks guys, it sounds like you guys are wishing me on some world journey or something
Dave & Katie: well maybe that's been the problem, I never thought about drivers when I got the speakers, bose speakers, I love them
H Sanchez: hopefully not a journey into the twilight zone
||||||||| It's 11:00 PM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| llanwydd - dead from dengue fever
||||||||| Bubba's Brain - dead from dengue fever
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Bambi: might want to read this article Dave: http://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/5545/
Dave & Katie: just put on some leonard cohen, one strange dude he is
Dave & Katie: ok will read it in a bit
||||||||| Catherwood enters the room, strikes a gong, and bellows "THE TIME IN NEW YORK IS 11 O'CLOCK", then silently exits.
Dave & Katie: again, thanks guys
Merlyn: gong hits for jesus
Dave & Katie: I'm getting a new computer! I am sooo excited, it's gonna be able to do more than I'll ever need, but it's gonna be as silent as you can get without going to liquid cooling
H Sanchez: watch it merlyn you can get expelled for that
H Stones: sounds like you havent plugged it in Dave
Bambi: LOL Stones
Merlyn: can you get silent movies on it?
Bambi: hope it doesn't have Vista on it Dave ... unless your text reader works in it
Dave & Katie: mmmmm I love silent movies, almost as good as the front cover of a playboy for me
H Sanchez: good one, dave
Dave & Katie: nononono staying away from vista, going to stick with xp
H Stones: i hear they do a Braille version of playboy Dave
Bambi: LOL Dave ... yes, I can imagine it would be
Dave & Katie: I do like analyzing the music in silent movies though
Dave & Katie: they do a braille version of playboy, but it's just the articles, and no one reads the magazine for the articles
H Stones: no one reads the magazine full stop
Bambi: very good idea Dave ... where did you find a new computer that still had WinXP on it? Most of the OEMs of course have moved to Vista unfortunately
Dave & Katie: ooo leonard cohen's new record makes my desk shake, his voice is soooo low
H Sanchez: dell will still build you one to your specifications, bambi
H Stones: arrggghhh ! Vista, the only five letter, four letter word
H Sanchez: lol stones agreed!!
Bambi: really, I had heard everyone reads Play Boy for the articles ... Jean Shepherd actually started writing for them years ago because of that. LOL
Dave & Katie: bambi I'm custom building the comp, everything but the case is in and it might be built tomorrow evening, and it will be tested and I should have it next week some time, so I'm installing xp on it
Bambi: glad to hear that Honey
H Stones: Dell are likely to start shipping with Linux soon if Michael Dell is to be believed
Bambi: Excellent Dave!
Bambi: yes, I sure hope he listens to his potential customers
H Stones: it seems that he is doing
H Sanchez: i have the distinct feeling he will listen...it is good business
Dave & Katie: thermaltake case, two 120 mm fans, raid 0 500 cgate hard drives, 2 gb coursair matched ddr ram, asus dhw delux mobo
Bambi: well, after Vista, it's hard to be sure LOL
H Stones: a friend of mine told me today he has to load Vista onto 12 computers
Bambi: he has my sympathies lol
H Stones: and mine Bambi
Dave & Katie: 800 mgjz on the ram, a heat sync that is silent and a power supply that is silent or close to it as well, I just don't remember the model numbers off the top of my head ubt have them in the spec file
H Sanchez: and mine!
Bambi: I've already been called in to fix some strang stuff for Vista for clients
Merlyn: the supertstrang theory of vista
Bambi: oops ... strange even
Dave & Katie: brb gotta restart
Merlyn: new driver?
Bambi: ok
H Stones: theres many a slip between theory and practice
Bambi: yes, yes there is Stones
H Stones: whats happened to everyone tonight Bambi? is it the Plague again ?
Bambi: Vista isn't gonna be my main computer ... I will wait to see whether they are still in bed with the entertainment cartels and get back to basics with their customers ... with the next version of Windows and then maybe I will think about upgrading to a newer version of Windows.
Bambi: no idea .. must be the good weather LOL
H Stones: imagines Fong sat in a deck chair on 5th Avenue
H Sanchez: hahaha right
H Stones: surounded by snow and slush
Merlyn: maybe I should kill dave so he can log in again
Bambi: eeek! snow and slush?! In DC in March?...yeah, I guess it could happen lol
||||||||| Merlyn aka 'The Reaper' has killed off Dave & Katie at 11:15 PM
H Stones: murder most foul Merlyn
Bambi: good idea Merlyn
H Stones: where will you stash the body ?
Bambi: in a virtual closet?
H Stones: it snowed here yesterday Bambi
Bambi: brrrr ... don't want to see snow any more this year lol
H Sanchez: here in new mexico we can get snow all the way up to easter it has happened before
H Stones: i had a gig snowed off by a blizzard on Apri 24th in 82
H Sanchez: in fact snow predicted in the higher elevations for tonight so the mountains will get some
Bambi: wow Honey ... I never would have guessed that about NM
H Stones: in 74 five inches of snow stopped the cricket on June 2nd
H Sanchez: same elevation here as denver, bambi
Merlyn: doesn't look good for dave...
Bambi: ah, ok
H Stones: same lattitude here as Alaska
Bambi: hmm, maybe he forgot to come back?
||||||||| 11:20 PM: Dave & Katie jumps out of the hall closet saying "I've been listening to all of you talking about me for the past five minutes!"
H Stones: but the brits are tough and can stand it, not like those southern softies in Canada
H Sanchez: lol, stones
H Sanchez: wb dave
Bambi: Alaska? the Islands or the bottom of the mainland?
Merlyn: eavesdropping he was
H Stones: wb Dave
Dave & Katie: had to restart twice, and now I have no sound
H Sanchez pets katie
Bambi: there's Dave & Katie
H Stones: pretend its a silent move Dave
Merlyn: not good
Bambi: revert to previous driver?
H Stones: strokes Katie
Dave & Katie: wait hang on I think I know the problem, it reset my mixer out device
Dave & Katie: well that's odd, it's still not working
Merlyn: did the driver appear to update ok?
Bambi is wondering how you set the mixer if you have no sound
Dave & Katie: I'm confused
Dave & Katie: well I just went in to audio and then chose the wave out as the bose usb audio, but now I can't hear my winamp, only the click when I press enter, hold on gonna restart
Merlyn: I'll shoot him with my dick cheney special
||||||||| Merlyn aka 'The Reaper' has killed off Dave & Katie at 11:26 PM
Bambi: ok
H Sanchez: lol merlyn
H Stones: Double Jeopardy
||||||||| Gusts of wind blow in from outside and the thumpa-thumpa-thumpa of helicopter blades is heard as Happy Panditt's chopper lands on the lawn and Dave & Katie plummets into the garden at 11:27 PM.
Merlyn: "I'll take 'Vice-Presidents who have shot someone' for $400, Alex"
Dave & Katie: there now winamp works, ok now time to test the recording thingies
Bambi: LOL
H Sanchez plays footsie with catherwood
||||||||| Catherwood walks right past H Sanchez
Bambi: cool
Dave & Katie: who is the dick of the orgazation Merl
Merlyn: How about a time-travel Cheney vs. Burr showdown?
Bambi: waiting on baited breath (what does that mean?!) to hear whether recording works now
Dave & Katie: nope still doesn't work
Bambi: guess it's better than pins and needles?
H Sanchez: i think it's with baited breath......and actually i never knew what the hell it meant, bambi
Dave & Katie: only input I get through is the mic
Merlyn: It's "bated breath" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bated_breath
H Sanchez: ahhhhhhhh
Dave & Katie: fish breath? dog breath variations?
Merlyn: means nearly not breathing
H Stones: what kind of bait do you use Merlyn
Bambi: maybe there is some DRM (Digital Rights Management) built into those speaker drivers that prevents even fair use??
Merlyn: I'm a real master baiter
Dave & Katie: I don't understand it, it looks like I did it right, set the wave out to bose usb audio, the in to sb audigy d800
Dave & Katie: that would be weird, because I didn't install any drivers for the speakers, just plugged 'em in and changed the out to them and the speaker set to 5.1
Merlyn: dave, can you determine if the new driver is working at all by getting any sound that you know is going through the new driver?
Bambi: did you set it to RECORD FROM the waveout for bose audio as well on the recording side of the mixer
Merlyn: you could also try things like stereo instead of 5.1
Dave & Katie: bangs fist on desk in frustration, and adobe fucking audition is too hard to use as far as the effects are concerned
H Stones: thats why i use Sound forge still
Dave & Katie: ah I can't type all this out, anyone wanna call me?
Bambi: might have to use the Windows mix for that on the record side ??
Bambi: eeek...left my cell in the car
Bambi: gotta get that before I go to bed to plug it in
Dave & Katie: the windows mix is set to wave
Bambi: for both sides of the mixer? particularly the record side and you left the mixer in record and open?
Dave & Katie: yes I think so
Bambi: ok
Bambi: sounds like you are doing it right
Bambi: do you have the old set of speakers to try instead of the USB ones ... just grasping at straws here ... can't imagine it would be about the speakers really
Dave & Katie: yeah I do
Dave & Katie: I don' think it would be about the speakers though either, I can put a file in and it works, it's recording and then playing it back that's not working
Dave & Katie: the old speakers are a pain to set up really
Dave & Katie: but it's late by most of yall, so I don't want to keep you up
Merlyn: dave, so playing a file means the driver is working?
Dave & Katie: I just don't get it
Bambi: I wonder if you can loop the speaker out to the analog mix line in to capture that?
Dave & Katie: no, it seems the driver isn't working, because the problem isn't solved, I could play the file before if I loaded it in to cool edit, I still can't play back a recording
Bambi: hmmm
Merlyn: maybe it was the wrong version of the driver
Dave & Katie: I know, really weird
Dave & Katie: I tryed to do the line in trick bambi, didn't work
Bambi: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/creativeaudigy2/index.html
Bambi: there is alot on that page, mix of words and images
Dave & Katie: but Dylan's "tangled up on blue" is really sounding great on these speakers I'll tell ya
Dave & Katie: yeah that would take a bit to read, I don't know what I'm looking for but thanks
Merlyn: so the sound you're getting is not at all going through the SB driver?
Bambi: JL said looping back wouldn't help, and could be dangerous ... he says it sounds like a 'record input' issue
Dave & Katie: I have no idea if it's going through the sb driver, it sounds like it always did
Bambi: is it coming from a DVD or CD or Internet Radio, mp3 file or what?
Dave & Katie: mp3 file
H Sanchez falls right over....
||||||||| At 11:53 PM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, H Sanchez!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
Bambi: if you load it into CoolEdit, can you hear it when you play it before doing anything with the file?
Bambi: it meaning the mp3 file
Dave & Katie: yes I can, just loaded up the same file I'd been using as the test file
Bambi: ok, so I guess I am not understanding at what point it won't play
Dave & Katie: it won't play when I set the recording mixer to wave, and then record from winamp, it won't play what I have recorded back
Dave & Katie: I just made Bob Dylan sound like he's on helium! hahahahahaha I couldn't resist
Merlyn: dave, can you record something, then play it back using whatever method you can play back files? Just to see if recording is working?
Bambi: so you are trying to record the sound coming out of Winamp into CoolEdit Pro
Dave & Katie: dylan goes chipmunk!
Dave & Katie: no merlyn that's what I can't do
Dave & Katie: it won't play backfiles, I get dead silence
Bambi: CoolEdit won't play it back or are you setting Winamp to record?
Dave & Katie: correct bambi, recording from winamp, the only input it lets me record to is the microphone, I can speak in to the mic and play it back and hear myself
Bambi: Winamp will create wavs but does it silently
Dave & Katie: cool edit won't play it back
Bambi: just creates a file
Bambi: then you generally can import the wav file into CoolEdit to manipulate the wav file that winamp created
Bambi: you don't record to the microphone though ... in Winamp you just use the wavout plugin to create a wav file of any recording you play
||||||||| Catherwood walks in wearing his pyjamas, yawns, and mumbles "It's midnight here in New York city"...then he falls over and starts snoring loudly..
Dave & Katie: I've never used winamp to record though, and mostly I record from line in sterio sources
Dave & Katie: hmmm how do i do that? never have done that
Merlyn: well, ,my cold is really getting to me, I'm going to sack out
Bambi: in Winamp (at least in version 2.x) you first choose the wavout output in the preferences, then 'play' a file or whatever, and it will silently create a wav
Dave & Katie: I selected the wave out plugin and began playing a song
Bambi: have a great night Merlyn
Dave & Katie: but then how do I save it?
H Stones: same from me Merlyn, take care
||||||||| At 12:02 AM, the lights go out! Rocky Rococo's voice pierces the inky darkness: "I've got you now, Merlyn!" Shattering glass is heard, and then the lights come back on...
Dave & Katie: later merl, thanks man really appreciated it
H Stones: see you next week
Bambi: have a great week Stones!
Bambi: ok, CoolEdit Pro is able to do all of that though to record whatever you play in CoolEdit
Bambi: not sure why you would need Winamp to record it
Dave & Katie: exactly, I'd rather not do that, cause I know how cool edit works
Bambi: if you have an mp3 file and you want to turn it into a wav file, you would choose to save as and choose the right bit rate in CoolEdit for what you want, right?
Dave & Katie: yes you would
Dave & Katie: ah, so I could make a wave of the mp3 and see if it plays back
Dave & Katie: or vice versa
Bambi: so maybe you just have a mismatch on the bitrate?
Bambi: yes
Bambi: right in cooledit
Dave & Katie: let's see what happens
Bambi: first load the mp3 file (or the wav file) and then choose save as and make your choices from there
Bambi: from the dropdown
Dave & Katie: should I do a save as and do it that way?
Bambi: what are your options? I think so, IF it gives you choices on formats to save to
Bambi: I believe it does, if I am remembering correctly
||||||||| It's 12:10 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| H Stones - dead from dengue fever
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
Bambi: (don't forget it's been awhile since I used CoolEdit)
Bambi: suggesting from memory lol
Dave & Katie: saving to microsoft wave format
Dave & Katie: it still plays
Bambi: so it worked then?
Dave & Katie: oh I see what you're saying, I did the wrong thing, hang on I have an idea
Dave & Katie: ok i recorded with cool edit playing afile from winamp, then saved it to see if it would play anything, it didn't
Dave & Katie: I'm stumped
Bambi: you have to set your output on playback on winamp to it's normal wavout, set the mixer record side to wav and leave it open on the record for the mixer while trying to record in CoolEdit from an audio source
Bambi: audio source in this case being winamp
Dave & Katie: I guess I don't know what you mean by leave it open
Bambi: using the Windows Mixer from the control panel if you only have a creative mixer in the system tray
Dave & Katie: I've only ben using the windows mixer from the control pannel
Dave & Katie: I don't have a creative mier, all it gave me was the creative console and it doesn't even show my bose usb audio device
Bambi: ok, PCM/wav can be looped back to a recording like in a stream. but why would you use winamp to play an mp3 to record in cooledit when cooledit can do it all?
Dave & Katie: it was just a test to see if I could record anything at all
Dave & Katie: I normally just put the files in, and normally record from my sterio to my computer at home, but won't do that until I go home
Bambi: probably not the best choice since PCM is an output channel and you record an input channel
Dave & Katie: also I thought it would be fun to sing with someone and record both me and the song at once to comapre pitch and phrasing,is the other idea, and I thought that with the "what you hear" option in the volume control I could do that
Bambi: actually what you would do in that case is load the file in cooledit
Dave & Katie: and then what
Bambi: then add another track to record your voice while playing the file
Bambi: within cooledit
Dave & Katie: I've never been able to use the multitrack part of the program, too visual
Bambi: it can do all you are talking about doing directly in cooledit
Dave & Katie: at least, the old versions of the screen reader couldn't read a lot of it
Bambi: ah, ok, that's the problem .. you really need another track for your voice to record, and then you save the 'project' as a wav and then when you are happy with it save as an mp3
Dave & Katie: so I'm sol basically
Bambi: is there someone who can help you set up the second track to record?
Dave & Katie: maybe, I was thinking of just playing with it
Bambi: ok, have you tried downloading audacity to see if it is more screenreader friendly ?
Bambi: (thank Cooledit for multi-track)
Bambi: thank=than
Dave & Katie: no never heard of it
Bambi: audacity is a free program that does what cooledit does, but who knows it maybe more screen reader friendly...not sure
Bambi: hold on and I will get a link for you
Bambi: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
Dave & Katie: ah cool, yeah I'll try it
Bambi: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
Dave & Katie: I will try it and see if it's more accessalbe
Bambi: certainly worth a shot. I have no idea if it's accessible
Dave & Katie: sourceforrge.net seems to have a lot of great stuff on it
Bambi: you will likely need to read the help file on it. things are done differently in Audacity than in CoolEdit. You import music files and add tracks to record your voice, then export as wav. You can use Cooledit to convert the wav to mp3 still if you don't have LAME mp3 encoder
Bambi: yes, it does!
Dave & Katie: well now i have a new toy to play with, but I need let the pup out and call it a night, long day tomorrow, thank for all your helps, hugs to you, don't forget your cell phone
Bambi: same here ... great to talk to you...give Katie a strokin' for me and tell her I said thanks for her patience ... smile
Bambi: thanks for the reminder on the cellphone
Bambi smiles
Bambi waves bye bye
Dave & Katie: byebyeeeee
||||||||| Dave & Katie dashes out the back door as Mayor P'nisnose blasts through the front door holding a shotgun and shouting "Where's Dave & Katie?! It's 12:39 AM and my ballot boxes haven't been stuffed yet!"
||||||||| It's 12:50 AM, and that means it's time to play BEAT THE REAPER! And here's how our contestants did:
||||||||| Bambi - dead from the yaws
||||||||| Better luck next time! And now, back to our chatroom, which is already in progress...
||||||||| Catherwood enters, and announces to all and sundry "It's 4:32 AM, time to change the log file and clean out unused rooms; please exit the chat room for a minute or two. Thank you for your patience."

The Evening's Participants:
Bubba's Brain
Dave & Katie
Dexter Fong
H Sanchez
H Stones
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Rest In Peace, Dear Friend

And, "The Home Team"